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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/sports/giants-bench-eli-manning.html
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Do you personally agree or disagree with the NFL benching Eli?
What do you think will happen to Eli?
Do you think that this puts Elis future in the NFL at risk?
I disagree with the Giants benching Eli because quite honestly, I don't think that they have any better option. Both Davis and Webb have experience and will need to play sometime, but I don't think that the time is now. The Giants are still "trying to make a postseason run", even though that is likely impossible at this point, and the person they need to lead them is the one who has been for the past 14 years. I think that Eli could come back in the future, but this is a very unfortunate situation. I do not like, and it makes me very sad, that Eli has the possibility of going out this way. I think that his future in the NFL is very much at risk, but it depends on how he feels in the future and what the team needs if he wants to play in the future. It would be very awkward to come back after this, so his future is definitely unknown. I know that many people are upset with this decision, and they have the right to be since this New York gem should not go into possible retirement in this matter.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the Giants, the phrase "if its not broke don't fix it" well not in this situation. The Giants have not been able to put a string of wins together this year and its time for some change. Its sad because he is the face of the NY Giants but they have to do some thing to try and put some wins under there belt before the season ends. Plus at this point you don't want to hurt Eli, if he's out there every game getting pummeled then he is due to get hurt soon. Even tho he is loosing his streak its better then ending his season with an injury. At the end of the day he will still probably start next season and bounce back from this off year.
ReplyDeleteDo you personally agree or disagree with the NFL benching Eli?
ReplyDeleteI agree and disagree. I agree if the Giants are trying to win games because they’re 2-7, but on the other hand, I disagree because Eli is a Giants legend. Eli has brought the Giants two Super Bowl Rings, and many successful seasons. It’s unfair to him to not let him finish, what may be his last season in the NFL. It’s understandable that they’re trying to win games, but I don’t think this was the right move. Overall, I disagree with the Giants decision because they should’ve let Eli finish out what potentially could be his last season. They’re not making the playoffs anyway, so there’s no point in disrespecting Eli to try to win games.
What do you think will happen to Eli?
I think Geno Smith is going to play bad and Eli will start again for the last games. I think no matter what happens this season he’s going to come back for one more season.
Do you think that this puts Elis future in the NFL at risk?
No it doesn’t put his future at risk because it’s his choice to retire or not. He can retire when he wants to.
I disagree with the Giants decision to bench Eli, especially for Geno Smith. While the Giants have a horrible record at 2-9, it isn't all Eli's fault. It has been plagued by injuries and the failure of his teammates to perform well. He doesn't get much protection while he is in the pocket, therefore not enough time to make efficient decisions. Another major aspect is the Giants defense: they are not good either. The Giants are suffering as a whole, there is not one player that outshines the rest of them, nor one that can be considered the worst player. Therefore, I believe that it was unfair to bench Eli. Especially for Geno Smith, who has not proven to be a good quarterback. In regards to Eli's future, I believe that the Giants will realize that Smith is no good, and regret the decision to bench Eli. All in all, his future is not put to risk.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with the benching of Eli Manning. One of the reasons why is that Eli Manning wasn't benched for Davis Webb, the young rookie quarterback that the Giants picked recently in the draft, but for Geno Smith. Smith has been proven to be a terrible quarterback in the NFL, and if the person starting over Eli is known to be worse, I'm disappointed. For Davis Webb at least, you could see what you have in the young player. Also, Ben McAdoo, a coach that will probably be fired sooner rather than later, can not do his job correctly, or even motivate his team. I can understand that Eli has not been playing very well, and upper management of the Giants organization wants to win, but they are even upset with McAdoo and how he managed the situation. Eli may even look for another team because of his treatment by McAdoo. However, I don't hink Manning will leave, but McAdoo will get the boot. Eli's career isn't over for another couple of years, and he's still able to play at the top level.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with the reason to bench Eli. I also disagree with the player that replaced him. Geno Smith? Hes worse than how eli played this year. I realize that they are trying to win, its not worth playing someone worse. Also Eli Manning is still a top quarter back. His offensive coordianator and head coach are actual munchkins and dont know how to run an offense. They couldnt get odel beckham, Brandon marshall, and sterling shepard to make plays? there some of the best recievers in the NFL, Some one getting them the ball and someone calling plays that actually knows how to coach, than they would be good. They have the quarter back, now they need a coach.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with benching Eli Manning. I don't believe that it is his fault for the team doing so badly this season. Overall the Giants had a lot of injuries that could have led to their bad performance. It is not like Manning came up short on supporting his team or talked badly about his team, in fact he did the opposite. Although some could argue that his age is getting in the way with his performance, in this case this season I believe it was just a team effort that led to the Giants performance. I think that Eli could take this one of two ways. He could use it as an excuse to finally retire or he could show the NFL that he still has some years left in him to play and end up on another team. I personally just believe that benching him was not the way to go especially since Eli Manning has always been a team player and someone that holds his own especially in the public eye.
ReplyDeleteAs an Eagles fan, I'm all for it. If a rival team wants to bench their franchise quarterback, I say go for it. Not that the Giants are at all a threat to us this year. Speaking objectively though, this is a bad decision for the Giants. Eli Manning has proven himself to be a great quarterback, and a potential future Hall of Famer. He's being replaced by Geno Smith, of all people. You don't bench the face of your team over a bad season that wasn't his fault, and you definitely don't start Geno Smith instead. I could see giving Davis Webb some time since this season is a wash. At least you have a chance for a solid quarterback, and give your rookie some NFL experience with no risk of making things worse. I think this is the end of Eli's time as a Giant, either he'll retire or play for another team. Either way, his greatness is probably over.
ReplyDeleteI personally believe that the only reason Eli should be benched is if the organization is certain that either Geno Smith or Davis Webb is better than Manning. The only other reason why they would start Geno would be to tank, but why wouldn't they just keep the quarterback who has only won two games this year? I think Eli will try to return to the Giants starting quarterback position next year. If he doesn't prove that he deserves to start, then maybe he will follow in his brother's footsteps and go to another team before retirement.
ReplyDeleteI believe that it is okay to bench Eli, even if Eli is not the sole blame for the Giants lack of success this season. As an organization, the Giants hate to lose and when things go south, the only way fix it is to make a change. Geno Smith had a rough time at the Jets and I believe that with more experience, he will become a better quarterback and will be more successful. Eli Manning is getting older and he has probably hit his plateau, so the giants have a couple of options. Take advantage of their high draft pick next year and pick up a young quarterback, or take in Geno and try to save themselves. I believe that they need to pickup a high caliber quarterback to help their offence produce.
ReplyDeleteI think that if your primary franchise QB is not performing well and this is starting to affect the team as well as the potential sacking of the head coach McAdoo, then there should be some changes made on the team. If a team isn't getting the results they want, they will need to look at what's going wrong, and despite many key players getting injured, Eli's performance was not a bright spot at all. I actually watched the game and thought that Geno Smith had a very solid performance for that being his first game, and he got a TD and made some pretty good plays. Do I think it was the right thing to bench Eli? There were a couple factors that played into Eli getting benched such as him being injured on Friday's practice, but it might've been an excuse to try something new to get the Giants out of the whole they dug for themselves. I think that Eli is coming towards the end of his career because he has been consistently performing under the expectations and his accomplishments are starting to get shadowed by his performance.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with benching Eli. Although he has not been competing well and winning games, there is no reason to tarnish a legendary quarterbacks reputation like that. The offensive line has also been letting him down as well as good receivers getting injured.
ReplyDeleteI believe the Giants should have benched Eli based on how the season was going, but as a fan it was an awful decision because Eli hasn't missed a game for 210 games straight. Also he is arguably the best quarterback in franchise history. I think Eli will start again and stay with the Giants for the rest of his career. Eli will have a job in the NFL as long as he is a solid quarterback, the Giants won't turn their backs on him next season because this year they were riddled with injuries and next year they will be a lot better.
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ReplyDeleteI disagree with the Giants benching Eli. Ben McAdoo already gave Giants fans a terrible season and than slaps the classiest player in football and one of the most beloved Giants players in the face by sitting him on the bench. It is disrespectful to Eli, and the least the Giants can do is let fans watch Eli Manning take the field on Sunday. Giants fans can be proud of him, but not McAdoo. Also, they sat him for Geno Smith who is not exactly the future of the franchise. What a terrible move. Eli will start next week because McAdoo has been fired, but if he was not fired than Eli would probably get picked up by a team like the Jaguars. I do not think his future is at risk. He is a great quarterback (maybe even a hall-of-famer) and I think Giants want to see him over any other sub par quarterback under center on Sunday. It all started with that horrid decision to fire legend Tom Coughlin and has just kept on getting worse.
Do you personally agree or disagree with the NFL benching Eli?
ReplyDeleteI pretty strongly disagree with benching Eli. I do understand that the Giants’ season hasn’t been great and that Eli won't be playing forever, so it is reasonable for the team to want to try out a quarterback. However, since Eli specifically said to the Giants that if they had another quarterback play for the second half, they might as well have the quarterback play for the first half as well, the Giants should’ve respected that and allowed Manning, their star QB for 14 straight years, to continue their streak. The real truth of the matter here is that Eli Manning is not the center of the problem for the Giants’ poor season and the team really should’ve focused instead on other aspects of the team and test out the other quarterbacks outside of games. Now that the Giants have conducted themselves in this matter, should Manning be able to find another team, it is likely that the Giants will lose a great asset from their team and be stuck with the other quarterbacks.
What do you think will happen to Eli?
It’s pretty hard to say what will happen to Eli. Eli has been so incredibly loyal to the team for 14 straight years and this intense desire to play for the Giants may very well continue on even though the Giants literally treated him like trash. Should Eli take offense to this and not want to play for the Giants anymore, it’s hard to say if another team in the league will want to pick him up. He pretty old now and this could hinder his game. It is worth noting that the Giants’ poor season this year is not doing Eli any favors in advocating for his game whatsoever. In the end, whether Eli moves to another team or not, he still has some very monumental accomplishments on his record and will not go down in history without a mark of his own.
Do you think that this puts Elis future in the NFL at risk?
This specific move by the team will likely put Eli’s future in the NFL at risk. Manning and the Giants have a pretty special relationship and now that the Giants are treating him like this, either the Giants or Eli may very well be tired of this relationship, resulting in Eli leaving the Giants. If Eli does leave, it’s hard to say whether any other team will pick him up. Eli is still a great quarterback but he is old and depending on the team, he may or may not be a liability more than a great player for the team. Even if Eli is picked up by another team, it’s hard to say if Eli can also adjust to playing for that team and handle not being on the Giants after a 14 year run. That being said, I do not however believe that the Giants’ move will hinder Manning’s chances of getting picked up by another team. In other words, if this whole debacle never happened by the Giants let Eli go anyway, his chances of being picked up by another team would be the same as his chances are now. Most people should realize the Giants’ move to eliminate Manning from play was a sad and mostly unjustified action. It really ruins the Giants’ record of loyalty more than it hurts what people think of Eli’s skills as a quarterback. Eli is really not the problem in the Giants’ lineup and the Giants’ idea of benching him is one that has no reflection on his game.
I strongly disagree with the Giants' decision to bench Eli Manning. Eli Manning has been the face of the Giants franchise ever since he took over at the quarterback position in 2004. Manning lead the Giants to two Super Bowl titles against Patriots teams that were vastly superior on paper. Yet his ability to make clutch plays and never quit on his team or his teammates secured him two Super Bowl rings, the same amount of rings as his brother Peyton Manning, a future first ballot hall of famer. Despite the fact that Eli never quit on his teammates, his coach quit on him. The Giants have one of the leagues worst offensive lines, suffered season ending injuries to their two biggest playmakers in Odell Backham and Brandon Marshall and boast a run game that ranks in the bottom five in the league. How can Eli, the one constant for the Giants in what has been an incredibly disappointing season be benched? He shouldn't be. It's not his fault the Giants are 2-10. If the Giants had a future franchise quarterback waiting to replace Manning, I would understand the benching. In a lost season why not give the kid some experience in low pressure environments? However, the Giants do not have a franchise quarterback behind Manning, Manning is their franchise quarterback. Geno Smith, who is the backup for Manning has proven nothing in his five year NFL career. He is not going to save the season or the franchise. To bench the man who has been the center of the universe for Giants fans for 13 years and delivered the franchise two Super Bowl championships is downright disrespectful.
ReplyDeleteI think Eli Manning will continue to be the great teammate that he is and continue to work hard for the Giants. I feel like he will play and start in the NFL in 2018 as around half the teams in the league would be happy to acquire his services.
I do not believe this hurts Eli Manning's chances in the NFL. His track record as a great teammate and great competitor speak for themselves and should result in him finding a starting job in 2018 if he wants to take it. He is not the quarterback he once was but if given a good defense and a good offensive line he can carry a team deep into the playoffs. Maybe theJacksonville Jaguars, who have QB troubles of their own, a stingy defense and a great running game would entice Manning. The kicker: Manning's former head coach Tom Caughlin works for the Jaguars as their vice president of player operations.
The benching of Eli Manning will not effect Eli’s future in the NFL. Eli manning is a two time super bowl champion and has had a few bad years because of the inept Gm who refuses to put good peases around him. Ever year the Giant have a terrible Offensive line and every year eli is sacked and hit an outrageous amount. There are plenty of teams in the NFL that would love to have Eli Manning as their Quarterback right now. He still has a few good years left in him and being benched for one game and losing his streak will not affect whether he plays again in the NFL.
ReplyDeletePersonally I believe that is was a terrible move by the Giants coaching staff and front office. They claimed that they wanted to see what they had with Geno Smith and Davis Webb but the game that Eli was benched for, Davis Webb was not even active for. Also Geno Smith single handedly tore down a mediocre jets team. Along with that if geno smith had a good game it wouldn’t really have mattered because he is a free agent at the end of the year. In this NFL if there's a glimpse of hope that you could find a “ok” quarterback in free agency he will get paid top dollar. So therefore even if geno smith had a amazing game the giants wouldn’t have been able to retain him because of their current cap situation.